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Anonymous · Guest

Hello. I recently discovered this board, and, after reading through many posts, decided to make my own. Here it goes. I hope i will get positive and helpful feedback.

I have, for the past year, been trying to attain astral projection and/or astral travel. I have been practicing my meditation and relaxing skills, and have read many (many) articles about it. Unfortunately I cannot purchase books about it because I still live with my parents and they are strictly Catholic and do not accept the fact that I do not believe the same thing as they do.

Anyways my attempts have not worked so far. I was wondering if anyone had any new and/or easy techniques that maybe could work for me? O've heard that some people can do it on the first try. Why is it not workig for me?

jacky_lightfoot · Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 247

you may need to describe your routine when you try. Easier to tell you whats wrong

STA · Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 20 Location: PA

FallenAngel,

Hi, welcome to the Forum. I'm still new myself, but as ya can see, there are many cool & diverse folks here. I'm sorry you can't be who & what you really are with those you really love...I was very fortunate to be raised Catholic, but had a liberal Mother who dabbled in fringe occult work in the early 1970's. Anyway, as far as OBE is concerned, I have never been able to have one, ever! There's a possibility I'm expierencing something like it, but I'm researching that at present. The point I'm trying to make is, we are all gifted in many different ways:) While I can't seem to have OBE, I do have really great InnerVision. So much so, others have asked if I could teach them this. Unfortunately, I was born with my eyes open, & with this gift, so No, I couldn't teach it. There is, as you have noted, alot of resources available on OBE. Like I mentioned already, there are really diverse people on this Forum, whom I'm sure can help ya out, like Jacky Lightfoot. Don't give up, but it's OK if it's not your gift, too:) Blessed Be. STA

Aura · Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 4

Hi FallenAngel,

After reading your post several things come to mind. I am going to try and share perspective on a few things.

First off, the mind is a muscle just like all others in the body - the only difference is it demands peace and calm. If you are excersising that muscle, don't expect it to grow in the first while. Aside from it being a muscle, it is also a grand receiver and is very intune with all things around you - both the energies of our world and all concious and subconcious thoughts.

Many people that are sucessfull in Astral Projection / Travel are naturals, and this is why they are able to do it on the first shot. It may be that You are a natural, but feel the stresses of being in your parents house and are inadvertently blocking the frequency of allow - this may very well be due to your parents lack of desire for your patricipation in such endeavors. The minds response to all things is there always and can inhibit easily.

Further, have you tried dream manipulation of any kind? This is also exercise for brain. If you cant do one (projection), try the other (travel). It is the same thing, the only difference is whether you are awake or asleep. In order to gain brain control, go to sleep with the idea that you will dream of a place or animal or any kind of object. Put this object inside your dream. Once you have accomplished this, you are better able to control your dream, thereby expanding your mind. From this expanse of mind, obtaining AP/AT will be easier. There is a method here - it is important that you learn brain control on many fronts. You must look at all in the 6th scenses with desire and respect in order to get any of the the doors open. It has been my experience , regarding the 6th senses, once one door opens, they all open - like a domino effect.

As far as reading goes, used book stores may very well have books for cheap on this subject that you may purchase and keep at school. I'm not suggesting you take them home if your parents don't want them there. However, in reality, you are alreay studying things they do not want for you, so you may as well make the most of it. Dont do it half-assed. You must have compelete understanding and comprehension of your desires in any form - in order for you to manipulate will into relaity.

I hope this helped - it is my experience and if all goes well, may you benefit from it.

Blessings, Aura

neotechmatrix2002 · Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 372

I think this book is very very helpful in having oobe's. I had my first oobe's from using the techniques givin here. Though I haven't kept up w/ using them I think i'm going to reread the techniques and try it again myself. If you don't want to read the story just go down towards the bottom of every chapter and there is the lesson... thats what i did i was to impatient to have an oobe that i didn't want to read what happen to the author Razz

http://www.robertpeterson.org/obebook.html

tourmaline · Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Minneapolis

I totally agree with Neotechmatrix2002 about the Robert Peterson book, it's super helpful and also a really fun and interesting read. It's a book I'll always have close at hand on my bookshelf (Robert Bruce's 'Astral Dynamics' is quite good as well, but sometimes gets pretty bogged down in details Smile

Best of luck with your astral travels!

Anonymous · Guest

If you happen to glance at this and are still in need of help tell us your technique. But also describe your state of mind, and any additional things that could inhibit or increase AP. Maybe you anticipate results so much that you kinda set yourself up for failure because little expierence means you might have a semi-skeptical mind. This can destroy the AP process. The problem may also be when, or other people around you, or lack of quality relaxation. Really it would be better if you could share in detail your technique.

Phoenix37 · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 28

Just try to ignore your other senses. Think of the physical world like a mountain in your mind, and the metaphysical like an anthill. If you shut out the mountain, the anthill becomes pretty big. Try giving your mind something repetitive to focus on. Playing a song in my mind used to help me before I got good at it (note: don't concentrate on playing it right, just play it, the shift in your mind to concentrate is far more detrimental, and you'll be playing it for a lot longer than you think). If parents are very against you learning this, shut them out of your awareness first, then the rest of the world.

Oh yeah, and relax ;)

007 · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 130 Location: Scotland

Hello! A very simple technique that I use which may help is too become deeply relaxed, then simply repeat to yourself 'Now I'm Out of Body' or 'Out of Body Now', like an affirmation. It is best to start with if you do this at bedtime until you fall asleep but I can now use it through the day and get results. This technique comes from William Buhlman's books which are worth a read if you ever get a chance, especially 'Secrets of the Soul'.
I don't know if this is the best technique but it's a lot easier than a lot of techniques.
Hope this helps from
007

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