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jacky_lightfoot
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 201
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject:
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The idea of money undermines all major religeons. It denies the existence in god/gods/higher selves. Your saying you dont believe that the universe is looking out for you.
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d_redant Site Admin
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 278 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject:
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Money is just energy.. you have to embrace it to have it...and you have to give to charity to keep it in flow...
Money is not bad... It becomes bad when you use it for bad things.
Money is just an essential tool for our survival.
Money is not evil
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jacky_lightfoot
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 201
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:
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| d_redant wrote: | Money is just energy.. you have to embrace it to have it...and you have to give to charity to keep it in flow...
Money is not bad... It becomes bad when you use it for bad things.
Money is just an essential tool for our survival.
Money is not evil |
lol to tell you the truth, Im arguing for the sake of arguing lol. Yes money has enough meaning in our culture. It can be used to help others, though there are much better ways then giving the money to charities ( do you know how much of that money actualy goes to helping anyone?). If your going to donate to an organization, donate things like clothes. Not money.
Money is known to turn people "greedy". Greed is a sign of weakness when one turns on others and worships the almighty dollar. People tend to loose their way and may have to face the facts sooner or later as to what real power is.
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d_redant Site Admin
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 278 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:33 pm Post subject:
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Your views are well noted but obviously they're just that.. Your views on money.
I will always see money as a very essential tool to survive.
Also when you give away clothes..of course you get back from the universe..but when you sacrifice and give money to qualified charities then the energy and love with which you gave the money (however small) will be shown back to you from the universe. This has been time tested by thousands of people and it's an amazing concept that has been verified over and over again. Yes of course some of the money goes into administration fees of the respective charities but it all depends on which charity you choose. You don't obviously choose a charity you know nothing about.
Now there are many many ways to give help on the internet for free (which will make the universe smile in your favor) - I'll compile the information when I get a little time and post a new thread on it
I know hundreds of people who are energy workers, healers,etc... Not one of them see money as evil or making people greedy..
As I said it's a very essential tool to survive...
Again..money is just energy...and you can make bad or good uses of it... Just with any other type of energy...
If you see money as evil and causes greed then that's how money will make you become because you have deep sub-conscious beliefs already embedded.
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Patrick Holden
Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 40 Location: Marbella
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:21 am Post subject:
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| neotechmatrix2002 wrote: | | A formula in one of the books I read was 10:10:70. The most your government should be taking out of your wages is 10%, The other 10% should go to charity when you give anything away in the right mindset it'll come back to you sevenfold. Then the 70% is for you to spend on yourself to live a fun and exciting life. |
If you don't need the other 10%...
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jamiedavenport1
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject: Money
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Reminds me of the saying that god didn't make diamonds for satan's group. if you believe in that sort of thing.
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RemoteControl
Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 25 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:41 pm Post subject:
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Money is just a reflection of value in the form of coins, cash, credit, etc...so how can it possibly be good or evil?
How you use money can be good or evil.
You shouldn't seek money, you should seek what you want behind the money. Seeking money is a big mistake. For instance, if I wanted money to buy a new house, I would focus on the new house, rather than the money itself.
Remember, do not focus on pieces of paper and coins, focus on what the paper and coins allow you to get.
Focus on what you truly want, not the surface desire.
So what is is that you truly want....?
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Katherinanyc28
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 235 Location: nyc
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:34 pm Post subject: making money with your gift
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| ladyamericaneagle wrote: | | Yeah that is why I am not to keen about sites like Keen and all that. Like was said by Spidie's uncle," With great power comes even greater responsiblity." I share my gift willingly knowing I am helping others in their time of need. Who knows sometime I may need the favor returned. |
I don't think its wrong to make money with your gift so long as your primary goal is helping that person and not charging them an arm and a leg. My method is I charge $15 for an entire reading. $5 goes towards my spirits which are used for others so either way even though I'm making money I'm still giving back twice. Plus I have a site where we do readings for free one reading a month though but its free so I believe its okay! Be blessed Kat
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mikep
Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 3
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astrodusted
Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 14
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject: powers for profit?
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I dont see why someone cant use thier powers or gifts for personal profit, as long as nobody else is suffering as a result. If we need money for the things we need in life, I dont think god wants us to be without. Who's to say god isnt the one that puts it on our table in the form of a ripe fruit grown from our own backyard, or the money to go to the supermarket and buy the peach? I dont believe that money is the root of all evil anymore than lust is the root of all evil. We all have desires, its what we do with those desires, and our own judgement of those desires that makes it evil or not.
money can buy a new old age home, or it can buy a warehouse to store heroin. who is to blame? money? I think wether or not its evil, lies in the person and what they do with it.
If I had the gift to manifest money you better believe i would try to hit the lotto, or whatever. Just think of all the positive things you could do with that money! Then again Im not christian and was lucky enough to be brought up in a house where religion did not exist at all, so I got none of that conditioning put on me. Nonetheless i still understand some basic principles of spirituality, and my thought is that if your intention is good, why have any guilt or hesitation in using it to manifest money? As long as a person doesnt become a slave to the acquisition of money, and turn money into thier personal god, I see no reason why a person cant use it for that. Balance, like anything would be the final factor in this equation, for me anyways. Just my 2 cents. Trust in that god will take care of you, and try to get that lotto! or raise, or whatever way you think god may manifest the cash into your life!
kk
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Amarna
Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject: Is Money Really Evil?
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I'm new to your Forum and have been reading the various comments regarding abundance issues in general and money in particular, and have a couple of comments to make, if I may.
I don't know why people here (as well as many others) get so hung up over money. The Christian Bible says that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil; not money in and of itself -- money is as necessary to a happy, healthy life as fresh air, clean water, wholesome food, adequate clothing and shelter, taking care of the underprivileged and disinfranchized, not to mention cleaning up our planet -- none of which is attainable without money, and plenty of it!
If you have a psychic gift, why not make it available to people who need it for a fee? Anyone with a shred of self worth is NOT looking for a hand-out. Besides, you're not charging for your gift -- you're charging for your time. I'm a pretty good Numerologist and I can assure you that my clients do not expect me to give my time to them for nothing. The information in the readings is free -- my time is not. The Christian Bible also says that a servant is worthy of his hire. Money is a medium of exchange; nothing more -- nothing less. If you give your employer 8 hours of your life a day to work in his business, don't you expect to be paid? Is it "evil" to expect money for your time just because it's your "job"? Is it honorable or Holy to go through life just scraping by? I think not!
The Universe is more abundant than we can even imagine, and it's all ours for the taking. Why not go down to the Ocean of Life with a caravan of pumper trucks instead of a little bucket hoping to get a bit of water? It's your choice folks; the God Force does not care one way or the other which you use. Help yourself to all of Life's goodness (including money) that you want.
Thanks for allowing me to share my views.
With best wishes for abundance to all --
Amarna
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Zygos
Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 162
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject:
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| d_redant wrote: | Your views are well noted but obviously they're just that.. Your views on money.
I will always see money as a very essential tool to survive.
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I will repeat what I once got from the universe when I once said something like this out aloud.
"What if all money was worth 0 (Zero), if a man with $100 would have the same amount as a person with $100,000 would money still matter that much to you"
Money is a form of energy, and like all energy its a give take process, you can kick up the amount of money you have by giving a lot of it away, if you horde it it flows slower. But such is life.
Anyhow.
Zygos
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excwan
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject:
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Flippin 'eck!
If we were still in caves doing the same thing we were doing back then how would we progress?
Money is a tool and contains a lesson for us.
As for it's worth, it's actually just a bunch of IOU's, check the notes next time you have some, so really they're worthless.
It's worth depends on it's use, probally.
It's not so much a case of 'too much of something is bad', it's more like 'the more you're attached to it the more you're denying yourself it's purpose'; detailed above.
So do what you will.
excwan.
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excwan
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:24 pm Post subject:
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Zygos said;
"I will repeat what I once got from the universe when I once said something like this out aloud.
"What if all money was worth 0 (Zero), if a man with $100 would have the same amount as a person with $100,000 would money still matter that much to you"
Money is a form of energy, and like all energy its a give take process, you can kick up the amount of money you have by giving a lot of it away, if you horde it it flows slower. But such is life.
Anyhow.
Zygos
excwan replies- Nice one.
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