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Black Cat
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 Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: If someone does a manifestation on your behalf...
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... can your own doubts impede the process or ruin the results? Or is it only dependent on the person who actually did the manifestation?
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Zygos
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: If someone does a manifestation on your behalf...
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| Black Cat wrote: | | ... can your own doubts impede the process or ruin the results? Or is it only dependent on the person who actually did the manifestation? |
Actually ironically manifestations can be more successful if done by someone other than yourself.
The main reason is if the person doing the manifestation is not attached to the outcome, then it is released more easily. And thus can be manifested.
However if the other person is someone who for some reason is attached to the outcome. (Like perhaps you've paid them for the service, and the manifest occuring is something they are counting on so they get paid.) Then it is just as easily stopped.
So if you are wishing to use such a service its best to find a neutral party. Generally someone who will listen to your request, then send it off on your behalf, and let it go because they don't care if it works or not.
Hard to find, but slightly more effective. Otherwise your best option is just to keep working on yourself, or find another method of manifesting that works better for you. (Such as writing it on a piece of paper, and putting it on a mirror, or fridge where you will unconsciously read it.)
Hope this helps.
Zygos
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neotechmatrix2002
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject:
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any negativity or doubting on your part will stop it from happening
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infinitesadness
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject:
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It's actually kinda contradicting cause the beliefs from "The Secret" and LOA states that you create your own universe and like attracts like. So technically speaking someone else can't possibly create the outcome you seek from the universe for you except yourself?
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ColinGS
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject:
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| infinitesadness wrote: | | It's actually kinda contradicting cause the beliefs from "The Secret" and LOA states that you create your own universe and like attracts like. So technically speaking someone else can't possibly create the outcome you seek from the universe for you except yourself? |
It'd depend on the strength of the wills of the conscious and subconscious minds of the individuals involved.
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ColinGS
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: If someone does a manifestation on your behalf...
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| Black Cat wrote: | | ... can your own doubts impede the process or ruin the results? Or is it only dependent on the person who actually did the manifestation? |
While it might vary with each situation, it's best to live your life, as if the thing did happen already.
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zannierose
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:30 am Post subject:
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I dont think it will help my manifestation if I look for doubts, I would prefer to ask myslef something along the lines of 'how can I allow this....to show up even more easily while someone is helping me with my manifesting
zannie
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DEATHKNIGHT
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject:
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Decreases the time spent than alone doing it.
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Vampiric Royalty
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:46 am Post subject:
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I dont agree with the view that another person doing visualization is better than you doing visualization yourself.
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mihael_11
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject:
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You must be very strong to do it by yourself, becouse you think and analyse whatever is going on.
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Vampiric Royalty
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject:
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| mihael_11 wrote: | | You must be very strong to do it by yourself, becouse you think and analyse whatever is going on. |
I dont agree.Sorry Mihael.I just believe that doing it yourself takes more time.But to manifest by yourself is hugely possible.
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d_redant
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:18 pm Post subject:
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It's totally possible for someone else (an adept) who is already at a high enough degree to be able to visualize or work on a person's intention successfully and have it manifest..
The biggest example is in your face with hundreds of testimonials.
The Manifestation Master
http://manifestation-master.com
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mihael_11
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject:
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Well, i wanted to say, that there is a lot of people, that dont know how to manifest in that case is better effect if somebody helps you.
Doing it by yourself takes less time, if you really know what you want and it is justified.
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d_redant
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject:
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Yes that's correct also remember if you are doing it alone the power can be amplified if another person joined you in holding the same intentions.
So it's always a good thing to have someone expert aid you for maximum impact...or you can do it yourself of course....but what I am saying is two heads are better than one...
You can do it alone or you can do it with help.
Which do you think will manifest faster?
With or Without help?
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mihael_11
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject:
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Yes that is right... At least you have more will if somebody is around. That is problem with me, i dont know anybody around here, who believes in this, so im on my own and chat about this on forums  
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