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Brickmaster · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Greece

thank you for posting thesoupnazi

By the way, have I told you?

I clued in some friends of mine in mind power seduction.
Both of them had great resaults up to now and I only told them about basic stuff on brainwaves and the magic touch.

Have you ever tried teach this stuff to someone?

thesoupnazi · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 72

haha, no cause if i told any of my friends, they'd prolly think i was crazy or something lol. but i do have a copy of "The Secret", maybe if i show them that, then the ebook, they might believe me somewhat.

No one taught me, i had to learn on my own. if someone was there to help me, i could be 10x better by now. But then after about 2 months on my own, i found mystical wonders and then i took off.

Reindeer · Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 6 Location: State of mind

Hello everyone... I guess this is as good a place to get started as any Very Happy

I've been working with Amargi Hillier's book pretty seriously now for about 2 months, and I was curious to see how well others are doing with it. Looking at the reports some of you have made, especially thesoupnazi and Nightwolf, seems that some are getting fantastic results! Congrats!

My results have admittedly been mixed. Anyway, here goes my report.

The upside: There is no question that this material works... to what degree though remains to be seen. I've found that it can be very useful for "breaking the ice" with other people, and establishing at least some basic rapport. My meditation skills have improved immensely, and I'm finally starting to get the hang of being able to get into a Theta state.

Another side benefit is that I'm also starting to get flashes of insight into the nature of existence. Sorry for being so vague, but much of it defies an easy explanation. Also, I'm finding myself getting by on much less sleep... about 6 hours.

The downside: I've actually been working on two subjects. Thus far I haven't been able to achieve the level of feedback that some of you have been able to accomplish. I almost feel like I've hit a plateau, and it's starting to get a little fustrating. What is basically happening is that I am able to establish a conversational rapport with the women that I have been working with, but that's about as far as it seems to get. Any hints or tips as to what can be done to improve the situation?

Also, any thoughts on possible karmic implications? My personal thoughts on this subject have been changing greatly as of late... I'm beginning to see karma as more of a form of manifestation that the cause-and-effect loop that many teach. I've pretty well come to the conclusion that PS is just a form of suggestion as opposed to manipulation. I suppose what I'm trying to find out is if anybody has had any "gotchas" from using this material.

Any thoughts anyone has to offer are appreciated! Thanks!

PeterM · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 5

I managed to download the Amargi Hiller book free, try a Google search re Psychic Seduction. I also managed to get the Joseph Plazo book free a while ago from a site called irreality 7 ( I think ),but don't know if it's still on there.

Quite some years ago, about 10 I think, I ordered a book calle "Psychic Command" by Brian D'Gwent from Finbarr Books in England, a company who specialise in Occult/Magical books.

I can say that all the stuff in the Amargi Hiller book and also the Joseph Plazo book are the same as the book from Finbarr so judging from reading 3 books and also doing some Psychic workshops re Tarot reading the techniques seem to be quite similar. Basically start to meditate, go into alpha. The prefered method seems to be be aware of your breathing, count down or imagine you're walking down a staircase, after that create your imaginary "special place" from which you do the visualisation/command.

Focus on the subject, the main thing seems to be visualising her/him in situations, using your imaginary sense of touch and basically imagining getting an erotic rapport, starting off with touching and caressing and progressing to genital and specifically clitoral stimulation.

There's more to it of course but that's just a quick synopsis taken from the 3 books.

Does it work?

I can only give you my experience. Quite a while ago I was pretty well into meditation so used to meditate and visualise every day for about 20 to 30 mins. At that time I had seen a girl/woman around who I thought was very atractive but who also was a bit aloof to say the least althought I'd said Hi and smiled etc.

After meditating, holding images of her in my mind etc a funny thing happened. A guy I knew brought her into the place I worked at the time and introduced her to me. I didn't know that he knew her. After that the ice was broken, we got to know each other and ended up having quite a passionate affair.

Coincidence? ................I don't know, maybe , maybe not but whatever, I ended up with her.

Due to circumstances and other commitments I haven't done any meditating/psychic work for a while but really should get back to it.

I forgot. Also, I had a booklet about Remote Influence too and the principles were pretty much the same. I don't know if these people copied each other or not.

Anyway, this is my first post here. Hope it's of some help

All the best, Peter

Reindeer · Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 6 Location: State of mind

Welcome Peter!

I've found that often our intentions have a way of manifesting themselves by way of coincidence... however, it's when those coincidences start lining up with regularity that you know something is working Very Happy

I agree that Joseph Plazo's book is very similar in it's basic approach, although he does go into different techniques.

Well, after working with the material for nearly a year, the results have been interesting to say the least. I stand by what I said earlier that it works very well as an ice-breaker, at least for me. I guess it's the old expression "your mileage may vary"! The biggest thing for me is that it helped open up the path for exponential spiritual growth... in that sense it has been a big positive.

PeterM · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 5

Hi Reindeer, thanks for the welcome.

Yes, I agree, sometimes these things just happen via a chain of seemingly random coincidences.

I think that it is a great way to attract someones interest enough that they maybe say,'Hi" or give you some indication that they want you to approach them. After that it's up to you but I think that if you've already done the psychic work it makes things a lot easier. As long as you can hold a reasonable conversation it's like you've got a head start already.

Due to circumstances I didn't really get into it much and only that one time do I think that it may have been successfull. Then again, maybe it was just a coincidence.

I forgot to mention in the last post. In the remote influencing book it said you could use the same technique to attract a certain"kind" of person, not just a definite, particular person. I've never tried that.

What kind of results have you had Reindeer?. Also what kind of exponential spiritual growth have you had?

I'm curious.

Regards,
Peter.

Reindeer · Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 6 Location: State of mind

Hi Peter,

This may be somewhat of a long reply, so bare with me. Wink

First is the meditation itself. The reason I tie it into PS is that it's what really got me going, and of course it helped to give me the incentive to continue.

I would say the most tangible benefits that I have had as a result have been substantial increases in my ability to concentrate, focus, and to visualize. When I first started working with this material, the images I was able to hold in my mind were cartoonish and fuzzy, and I really had to struggle to keep the image for more than a few minutes at a time. Now I'm able to hold a clear and highly detailed image, along with a good sensation of sound and touch, and can hold the image for around 45 minutes or so when quiet. Still learning to deal with distractions, but are doing better in holding an image even while there is noise or other activities going on.

Another benefit is that I was in an auto accident a few years ago, and received a back injury as a result. Ultimately the arthritis set in, and I had to go on painkillers. Since I started with a meditation regimen, I have been able to cut back on the medication to only a couple of times per month, usually when a storm is rolling in. Again a big positive. Very Happy

Have been having reasonable success being able to slip into theta. This part can be difficult as it is on the borderline of sleep. The way I know is that at theta, there should be no (or at least minimal) external sense of the body... but the catch is that if I start to monitor myself, I go right back into alpha. The only real advice I can give here based upon my experience is simply to stay focused on whatever it is that you are after, and not worry about what level you are at.

Does theta work as described? Absolutely. I've had several people in my life come back and describe very accurately the images that I was holding at the time.

OK, on to PS and Hillier's book. Over the last year, I have worked with four subjects. Two of them I had a mild interest in, but mainly I was approaching it from the standpoint of experimentation... see if the material actually worked. The other two I was very much attracted to, and wanted to see if I could make anything happen.

The first subject was a co-worker, somewhat reserved and tended to keep to herself. We had chatted on a couple of prior occasions, but that was about the extend of it. Felt this would have been a good test as she was someone I passed by regularly, and due to her quiet nature would readily see any "out of character" changes. I tried the techniques over a couple of months, outwardly trying to remain as neutral as possible. Within the first week, she did start to open up a little bit. By the end of two months, she would generally come bouncing out from behind her desk with an ear-to-ear grin. To date we remain friends and occasionally go out to lunch.

Subject two was a checker at a local store that I frequent. I tried a similar approach as above for about a month, and was experiencing similar results. However, it turned out she was a bit high strung and cattish, so I pretty much just dropped the issue.

Subject three was another woman I met at another store, and this one I was definitely interested in. This time we seemed to connect, and within about three weeks or so, I was approached with a phone number and an offer for a date. Come to find out that she was married with children, and apparently playing the field herself... in other words, trouble.

So the lesson learned so far is that it might not be a bad idea to get to know a little about the person in question before trying the techniques... one might end up getting more than they bargained for!

Subject four is one I'm currently working on. This time I had positive results in about a week. Very Happy

I'll let you know how it works out Wink

Anyway the soup and nuts on this is that for me it seems to work great as an icebreaker. As you say, from then on it's up to the person...

There are two other points worth mentioning.

First is that earlier this year, I got into an argument with a friend (male). Using Plazo's suggestion, I tried the techniques in order to try and smooth things over. It seemed to work as the next time I saw him he acted as if nothing happened.

The other is that I feel that I have had a boost in general magnetism.

Finally, spiritual aspect.

Like I said in my previous post,starting off with PS has opened up other paths, and I have experienced tremendous growth in the last year. I suppose that it's one of those things that having a taste of success in one area, I wanted to know and experience more. Some of what I've gone through would be difficult to put into words, but here is the basic rundown.

First, I'm now beginning to understand just how much we create and manifest our own reality. It's no B.S. to say that our thoughts and feelings will manifest themselves in due course. I think the reason most people don't realize this is that for most there is usually a fairly long lag time between the original thought and the way it materializes in our lives.

However, as one starts down this path and see how our thoughts manifests into reality, the lag time gets shorter and shorter. At this time, usually I see my desires materialize within a few days. Just realize one has to be clear about their intent or desire, and that it WILL make its way into their life.

The next thing is the realization that there is only one consciousness, and that everything that exists is a projection of that consciousness. I don't mean this on a mental level either. Many people call this God. Google solipsism. I now realize what our purpose is as well... we have eternity to contemplate infinity.

Whew!

There is so much more, but this is a good beginning! Laughing

I hope that this has been of help!

PeterM · Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 5

Thanks for the reply Reindeer.
Sorry about the delay in getting back onto this thread. Busy over Christmas New Year etc.
I noticed that any kind of meditation/visualisation , not just related to seduction works with keeping you centred, calm and helps with concentration and I think with creativity.

Sounds as though you've had some sucess with Psychic Seduction so far. My experience was that even though i only concentrated on the subject for a couple of weeks it was enough to bring about the coincidental meeting and quite instant attraction. I don't know but maybe if you focussed on a particular person for longer maybe the atrction would be a lot greater and not just like a "breaking the ice" kind of attraction. Also I forgot to mention that in my particular case the woman was quite a bit younger than me too!

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divine_source · Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 22

does any 1 know amargi hilliers website?

jemcleod · Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 2

Hey all, new to this forum. Question, has anyone tried this on someone who has a boyfriend/girlfriend and lives with them? Any success? I have known this person for a few months now from work, and we do lunch together sometimes, and I want to try this on her, because I like her, but not sure if it would work since she has a boyfriend.[/i]

saad7 · Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Posts: 31

hmm well i have been doing the same on someone for like almost a year but i did not have n e success with this . my method is the same as told in this book even then its not working .

jemcleod · Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 2

Does this person have a boyfriend that you have been trying for a year? If no or yes, why do you think you have not suceeded

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